News show episode · Reality Check · 18 October 2026
Ross Coulthart: the White House is going around the legacy program (Q&A)
Ross Coulthart's weekly Q&A with producer Meagan Medick: the White Sands lure as a presidential end-run around the legacy program, Devin Nunes, contractors and IR&D, the 1970s handover of craft, Barber in Stockholm, Greece's D33 and Castle Bravo.
The claims, checked
On the record (1)
Greek ISR sortie (D33): an object made multiple 90° turns at about 80 mph just above the water.Checked against DOW-UAP-D33: 33rd SOS from Larissa, 27 Oct 2023, AN/DAS-4, assessed 'benign'.firsthandDOW-UAP-D33Ninety-degree turns over the Aegean
Witness testimony (2)
Barber, by video link in Stockholm, said the egg craft were seen coming from a much larger mothership.Matches attendees' posts.secondhandJake Barber → attendees → Ross Coulthart → told itStockholm UAP conference (Beyond Session #1, 1 Oct 2026)Jake Barber and the golden egg
Grusch never worked for the CIA; the Rogan line was a slip.Grusch's NGA and Task Force roles are documented.secondhandGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
Alleged / one person's word (4)
The White Sands lure was presidentially authorised; ODNI, FBI and pockets of DoD are helping the White House go around the legacy program.Coulthart's unnamed sources; the motive is his own speculation.anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itThe White Sands lure and the shoot-down questionThe Legacy Program
Devin Nunes oversees the White House's handling of the legacy program.Unnamed sources; Nunes chairs the President's Intelligence Advisory Board.anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itDevin Nunes
Craft were handed from DOE to private firms in the 1970s under Nixon, in a panic over FOIA, Watergate and the Church inquiry.Coulthart, 'as I understand it'.anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itThe Legacy Program
Castle Bravo (1954) disrupted a craft that fell into the ocean and was retrieved.Not checked.secondhandJeff Cruickshank → Ross Coulthart → told it
Doesn't hold as stated (1)
Stratton said on Fox he was briefed on Roswell bodies and craft.Not in the Fox transcript; the Roswell account is in the memoir, from Jim Ryder.secondhandJay StrattonJim Ryder