Person
Robert S. Martinez
- His own account (named, firsthand): the Espionage Act fax with 'death' underlined, Schiff's FOIA requests and death within a year, the client found dead three weeks after the Schiff meeting, two men in black suits taking the file, the girlfriend's car and the T-boning the police officer called deliberate.
- His client's account (anonymous, deceased): White Sands deep-space radar tracking for retrievals from 1947, Roswell photographs, the engage order from Korea to the 1990s, Holloman pilots lost, the spoofed recall, the empty ejection seat.
- Where it stands: the client's identity and company are under privilege; Martinez holds a Schiff FOIA file he would open in a SCIF.
Retired employment and civil-rights lawyer who practised in Albuquerque and now lives in Tucson, author of 'My Most Unusual Client: The Shocking Truth of the Alien Agenda'. In 1996 he represented a long-serving White Sands employee (pseudonym 'Dwayne Becker') who said he had coordinated craft retrievals for almost 50 years. The client died soon after Martinez met Rep. Steve Schiff about the case, and Martinez describes a run of threats and incidents around it. He says he would testify under oath.
Claims (14)
In 1996 a long-serving White Sands employee, pushed out after two years of demotions, hired him for an age-discrimination and unemployment case; the man had broken down crying at his desk over a pilot who died, after which the company decided he had to go.White Sands lureReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
Opposing counsel, a Washington DC firm acting for what seemed a small New Mexico company, attached the Espionage Act to their entry of appearance and underlined the word 'death' in its penalties paragraph. He took it as a threat.Reality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
At the unemployment appeal the two DC lawyers harassed him and the administrative judge, and the judge ruled for his client from the bench, which he says never happens.Reality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
A colleague introduced him at a fundraiser to Rep. Steve Schiff (R-NM), who was hitting 'a stone wall' with the Air Force on Roswell and wanted his client's help. Schiff then volunteered to file his FOIA requests to the Air Force through his own office.RoswellGAO report on the Roswell records search (GAO/NSIAD-95-187)One corner of New MexicoReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
His client stopped returning calls the day after the Schiff meeting and was found dead about three weeks later; the family found a window left open when they broke in. There was no police investigation he knows of, and the body was cremated.The price of contactReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
Two men in black suits came to his office while he was in court, waited until the receptionist left the room, and walked out carrying the client file with all his notes. They were never seen again.The price of contactReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
His girlfriend's parked car rolled out of her garage over her, dragging her to the curb; a search of reported cases found no such defect for that make and model. He later believes he was the target, since he usually left first.The price of contactReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
He was later T-boned at a green light by a drunk driver who fled; the police officer at the scene told him 'if I didn't know better, I would swear that guy was aiming for you', since there were no skid marks and the driver had to swerve to reach him.The price of contactReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
Schiff developed what seemed a treatable cancer soon after filing the FOIA requests and was dead within about a year, most of it in radiation treatment. Martinez does not believe it was natural but says he has nothing more to go on.GAO report on the Roswell records search (GAO/NSIAD-95-187)The price of contactReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
He called Alan Diehl, the USAF safety whistleblower in Time (1996: at least 30 accidents, 184 dead), and asked whether UFOs could explain the crashes; after a long silence Diehl said 'no, I never considered that.'Ordered to fireReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
He kept a separate Schiff file with his FOIA requests, which the men who took the client file missed, and would open it only in a SCIF.Reality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
He says he would swear under oath to all of it, holding back only his client's identity and the company's name under attorney-client privilege.Reality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'firsthandSourced, unconfirmedRobert S. Martinez
Hired off a New Mexico ranch in 1947, after Roswell, he worked almost 50 years at White Sands, rising from space monitor to a tracking station, and coordinated the retrieval of craft using deep-space radar.RoswellThe recovery teamsWhite Sands lureReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'anonymousLeadRobert S. Martinez
He saw photographs of the Roswell wreck and alien bodies taken by a White Sands photographer he knew. The craft hit something near Roswell and came down a few miles away.RoswellReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'anonymousLeadRobert S. Martinez
What Robert S. Martinez said (21 claims)
Witness testimony 12Alleged 9
“In 1996 a long-serving White Sands employee, pushed out after two years of demotions, hired him for an age-discrimination and unemployment case; the man had broken down crying at his desk over a pilot who died, after which the company decided he had to go.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“Opposing counsel, a Washington DC firm acting for what seemed a small New Mexico company, attached the Espionage Act to their entry of appearance and underlined the word 'death' in its penalties paragraph. He took it as a threat.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“At the unemployment appeal the two DC lawyers harassed him and the administrative judge, and the judge ruled for his client from the bench, which he says never happens.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“A colleague introduced him at a fundraiser to Rep. Steve Schiff (R-NM), who was hitting 'a stone wall' with the Air Force on Roswell and wanted his client's help. Schiff then volunteered to file his FOIA requests to the Air Force through his own office.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“His client stopped returning calls the day after the Schiff meeting and was found dead about three weeks later; the family found a window left open when they broke in. There was no police investigation he knows of, and the body was cremated.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“Two men in black suits came to his office while he was in court, waited until the receptionist left the room, and walked out carrying the client file with all his notes. They were never seen again.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“His girlfriend's parked car rolled out of her garage over her, dragging her to the curb; a search of reported cases found no such defect for that make and model. He later believes he was the target, since he usually left first.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
An unset brake or undetected fault is proposed, not demonstrated.
“He was later T-boned at a green light by a drunk driver who fled; the police officer at the scene told him 'if I didn't know better, I would swear that guy was aiming for you', since there were no skid marks and the driver had to swerve to reach him.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“Schiff developed what seemed a treatable cancer soon after filing the FOIA requests and was dead within about a year, most of it in radiation treatment. Martinez does not believe it was natural but says he has nothing more to go on.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
Schiff died 25 March 1998.
“He called Alan Diehl, the USAF safety whistleblower in Time (1996: at least 30 accidents, 184 dead), and asked whether UFOs could explain the crashes; after a long silence Diehl said 'no, I never considered that.'”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“He kept a separate Schiff file with his FOIA requests, which the men who took the client file missed, and would open it only in a SCIF.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“He says he would swear under oath to all of it, holding back only his client's identity and the company's name under attorney-client privilege.”Witness testimonyReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“Hired off a New Mexico ranch in 1947, after Roswell, he worked almost 50 years at White Sands, rising from space monitor to a tracking station, and coordinated the retrieval of craft using deep-space radar.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“He saw photographs of the Roswell wreck and alien bodies taken by a White Sands photographer he knew. The craft hit something near Roswell and came down a few miles away.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“Confrontations with craft began over Korea in the early 1950s; the engage order was stopped as 'a losing battle', then reissued in the 1990s after 300-ft cylinders came within 30 feet of airliners over New Mexico.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“The interceptors flew from Holloman, and pilots died in crashes logged as 'routine training missions'; they were advanced fighters with veteran pilots. He knew one dead pilot's family.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“Three jets sent to corner a craft over White Sands all heard an order to return to base; on landing, the ground said no one had given it.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“In one crash the ejection seat came down by parachute about a mile from the wreck with the harness still fastened and no pilot; they suspected an abduction.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“'Good' aliens abduct people, perform medical procedures and return them; 'bad' ones never return them.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
“As a young employee he saw President Eisenhower at White Sands in the mid-1950s, and saw James Forrestal there.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
Forrestal died in 1949, so that sighting would be late 1940s; Martinez does not date it.
“Visitors are influencing or controlling some government officials, which is why disclosure never gets past the first step.”AllegedReality Check: retired lawyer Robert Martinez on his 'most unusual client'
The client's theory, which Martinez says he shares.
Cases (3)
- 1947Roswell: the Army's 'flying disc'
- 1964The Holloman landing, as told to George H. W. Bush
- 2025The White Sands lure and the shoot-down question