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Split by service
Narrative · by UAP Gerb

Split by service

There is no single program. It started as one in 1947, under a control group in the National Security Council, but each service took its own share: the Air Force through Wright-Patterson and later NASIC, the Army through its R&D office and Dugway, the Navy through MITRE and NURO, and the labs through Sandia, Los Alamos and DOE. After 1978 the silos hardened. Gerb's point is that they barely cooperate, so the Army and the Air Force each tried to copy the same cloaking without telling the other, and a story that blames only the contractors misses most of it.

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The voices it opens with

Before UAP Gerb says a word, the video lets others speak. Each clip is linked at its second in the video.

Air Force hidden wing
Programs within US Army and US Air Force in the early 21st century likely both attempted to adapt electro-optic cloaking systems from downed NHI craft, but with little to no cooperation, communication or consolidation.
UAP Gerb’s reasoning
Crash-retrieval extended Q&A, Aug 2026
It's so fragmented and there's no overarching authority that binds all of these program groups together, and they're stovepiped from each other.
UAP Gerb’s reasoning
NASIC and Air Force crash retrieval
Characters in that film leave out the USDI, DIA, ONI and, most importantly, the National Security Council's involvement in this mission set.
UAP Gerb’s reasoning
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The claim, in UAP Gerb’s words

“Each service runs its own legacy program, stovepiped from the others, with no authority over all of them.”

Gerb's reading, across 22 of our recordsGerb warns against the contractor-only story: it leaves out the labs, ONI, NGA, the Army and the NSC.

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How it split

The central claim drawn as a tree. Each branch is a part of the story that went its own way, splitting at UAP Gerb’s turning points. Line weight is UAP Gerb’s sense of how much each branch holds. Click a branch, a fork or a dot.

On the recordNamed witnessUnnamed insidersUAP Gerb’s reasoningFork: what split it
ONESILOSNO ONE1950195519601965197019751980198519901995200020052010201520202025WHERE IT IS NOWAir ForceA NASIC "night job"Labs and the CIAHolding materialOne program, 1947Scattered after 1978ArmyA program of its ownNavy and MarinesOut of sight1947 · Air Force1947 · Air Force1947 · Labs1947 · Labs1958 · Navy1958 · Navy1960 · Army1960 · Army2003 · NASIC formed2009 · The Air Force's hidden wing2016 · AFOSI/PJ guards the Air Force share2026 · NASIC's "night job"2003 · CIA's Office of Global Access2009 · DOE "national asset materials"2025 · Oak Ridge: two saucers under a lab1947 · AFSWP: Army and Navy share the bomb1947 · National Security Act1978 · EO 12036: the silos hardenEO 12036: the silos harden1961 · Corso feeds the Army's share to industry2004 · Army and Air Force each try cloakingArmy and Air Force each t…2009 · A saucer in a Dugway building2025 · An Army legacy-program witnessAn Army legacy-program wi…1969 · NURO under sea1991 · The Navy raises a triangle1997 · Marines in Peru2013 · Navy: Off-World Technologies at Crane
1947–1978.05

One program, 1947

This branch rests on: named witness
The shared start under the NSC.
What it held. NSC control group, AFSWP, the labs
Where it is now. Scattered after 1978
Events on this branch
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How it unfolds: three eras

1947–1977

One program

A shared start under the NSC; the services take their shares.
8 events · 4 record · 3 named · 1 unnamed · 0 reasoning
1978–2002

Silos

Review scatters the control group; each service keeps its own.
3 events · 1 record · 1 named · 1 unnamed · 0 reasoning
2003–now

No one in charge

NASIC, Dugway, Crane and the labs work apart, sometimes on the same thing.
11 events · 3 record · 3 named · 4 unnamed · 1 reasoning
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What carries it

Every event in the narrative, sorted by what it rests on. The on-record events are the skeleton; the rest is what UAP Gerb hangs on it.

8On the recordLaws, orders, founding dates, released files
7Named witnessesPeople on record, firsthand or secondhand
6Unnamed insidersUAP Gerb’s own sources, anonymous to the public
1UAP Gerb’s reasoningThe links and readings UAP Gerb adds
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Open threads

  • Who is Gerb's Army witness, and what does the Army program hold?
  • Does any single office know all the silos? Gerb thinks Clapper came closest after 2009.
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