Conference talk · International UFO Congress · February 2015
Lazar's first UFO conference: Q&A with George Knapp
At his first UFO convention, in Arizona in February 2015, Bob Lazar takes George Knapp's questions for over an hour. The story matches 1989, with new details: a small American flag on the sport model, 22 cleared names he withholds as a test, a shot craft that 'came out of the water', 500 lb of element 115 tied to Los Alamos, staff calling the occupants 'the kids', and the night-vision scope that rolled to their feet when they were caught. He says only the sport model is certain. Knapp tells of asking Ben Rich directly about alien technology in the F-117.
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Witness testimony (5)
A small American flag was stuck on the sport model.firsthandArea 51 and S-4 go public
Twenty-two people had clearance; he withholds the names as a test.firsthandArea 51 and S-4 go public
A craft shot with a projectile 'came out of the water'.In 2026 he tied an underwater dig to the sport model instead.firsthandArea 51 and S-4 go public
Only the sport model is certain; the others could have been holograms.firsthandArea 51 and S-4 go public
Alleged / one person's word (2)
About 500 lb of element 115 were on hand, with Los Alamos storing or shipping it.secondhandunnamed S-4 staff → Bob Lazar → told itArea 51 and S-4 go publicLos Alamos National Laboratory
Ben Rich told a UCLA audience 'we now have the technology to take ET home'.secondhandBen Rich → Jan Harzan → George Knapp → told itBen RichLockheed Martin Skunk Works