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News show episode · Reality Check · 4 August 2026

Inside 'Kona Blue', the alleged Lockheed-to-DHS UFO transfer (UAP Gerb)

Reality Check: Ross Coulthart and UAP Gerb, 'The Kona Blue coverup' (part 2). · NewsNation (Reality Check), YouTube thumbnail

Ross Coulthart with the researcher UAP Gerb on Kona Blue, Lockheed's Jim Ryder, the CIA, Immaculate Constellation and TTSA, and on contractors and federal research centres holding non-human technology.

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On the record (3)

Kona Blue was a DHS prospective special access program.DoD/DHS release (April 2024) and AARO: set up 2011, killed six months later; nothing transferred.firsthandKona Blue (DHS prospective SAP, 2011)
The 1971 US-USSR Accidents Measures Agreement requires notice of unidentified objects on missile-warning systems.Article 3 of the agreement; the 'ATOM' code names are not checked.firsthand1971 agreement
Yellow Fruit shows how a 'retired' officer can run a cover company, as TTSA might have.Yellow Fruit (1980s Army SAP) is documented; the TTSA parallel is Gerb's hypothesis.analysisTo The Stars Academy

Alleged / one person's word (6)

It was a technology-transfer vehicle for Lockheed's Jim Ryder to pass UFO material to OSAP, and the CIA stopped it.Not in the documents, which name no company; fits Stratton's memoir and Knapp's version.secondhandunstated sources → UAP Gerb → Reality Check (Oct 2026) → told itKona Blue (DHS prospective SAP, 2011)Jim RyderGlenn GaffneyThe Lockheed craft offered to AAWSAP
Mary Sturtevant is tied to the relay.Her CIA and SSCI career is on record; no record of her at Lockheed.secondhandunstated sources → UAP Gerb → Reality Check (Oct 2026) → told itMary Sturtevant
Elizondo exposed DeLonge to Immaculate Constellation material as a controlled disclosure.Gerb's own hypothesis.speculationImmaculate ConstellationLuis ElizondoTo The Stars Academy
Civilian aircraft have been brought down by EMP weapons used against non-human craft in restricted airspace.No case named.secondhandpeople directly involved → Ross Coulthart → told itThe Legacy Program
The 2004 Tic Tac was operated by somebody connected to Lockheed.Coulthart's unnamed sources; Gerb says humans have their own Tic Tac variant.anonymousunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart (Reality Check, Oct 2026) → told itThe Nimitz 'Tic Tac'Lockheed Martin Skunk Works
In the early 2000s specific FFRDCs and elements of the armed forces stopped briefing program incumbents on the program's history.Same claim as the MITRE briefing embargo, which Gerb's MITRE video dates to 2011 and he later recalls as the 'early 2010s'.anonymousunnamed sources → UAP Gerb → told itThe MITRE Corporation

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