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Deep Underground Military Bases (D.U.M.Bs.) - UFO Legacy Programs
A documents tour, drawn largely from Richard Sauder's books, showing that the Army Corps of Engineers, RAND, Los Alamos and others planned and built large underground facilities and studied deep tunnels and very high-speed underground transit. None of those documents mentions UFOs; the UFO link rests on Stringfield's anonymous letters, Bill Hamilton's informants, Greer witnesses, and about half a dozen veterans who spoke to Gerb directly. Gerb's model of underground hubs built mostly from 1961 to 1989 and later joined by maglev is his own reasoning.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
1959-1961
USACE underground design manualFive-part manual on underground installations in rock, with camouflaged portals.
1963-1964
DUCC memosDeep Underground Command Center planned 3,500 ft under Washington; officially never built.
1964
USACE 12 deep sitesCandidate sites to 4,000 ft including one beside China Lake.
1972
RAND very high-speed transit studyRobert Salter's VHST study describes tube transit at up to 14,000 mph.
1974
Fort Hood underground complex letterAnonymous letter to Stringfield on a UFO complex under Gray AAF.
1981-1982
Deep ICBM basing workshopPlans for 400 miles of tunnels 2,500-3,500 ft deep.
1989
Duscha speechUSACE deputy says several of the most interesting underground facilities remain classified.
1990
Hamilton's underground mapMap from "TA" showing an Edwards hub and links across the Southwest.
The claims, checked
On the record (7)
USACE deputy Lloyd Duscha said in 1989 that several of the Corps' most interesting underground facilities are still classified.His published speech.analysisLloyd Duscha
A 1985 USACE survey found hardened underground facilities possible under virtually any ground conditions, with cost the only constraint.USACE literature survey.analysisUS Army Corps of Engineers
In 1963 McNamara proposed a Deep Underground Command Center 3,500 ft under Washington, and in 1964 Rostow advised proceeding.Declassified memos; officially never built.analysisRobert McNamaraThe Deep Underground Command Center memos (1963-64)
RAND's 1972 very high-speed transit study described underground tube travel at speeds as high as 14,000 mph.RAND report by Robert Salter.analysisRAND Corporation
Los Alamos patented a nuclear subterrene that melts rock to bore tunnels.AEC/ERDA patents, 1972 and 1975.analysisLos Alamos National Laboratory
Kirtland's Manzano area holds underground facilities.FOIA response to Richard Sauder.analysisRichard SauderKirtland Air Force Base
A 1947 Air Materiel Command request sought German technicians for an underground plant program, including Organisation Todt's Xaver Dorsch.Paperclip record; Gerb's idea that Dorsch and Kammler designed US legacy sites is his own reasoning.analysisAir Materiel Command
Witness testimony (2)
Tejon builds the XF-131 triangle and an orange disc called the Great Pumpkin.Boylan and McDonald, from their own unnamed sources.secondhandunnamed engineers → person/bill-mcdonald → told itNorthrop Grumman
An aerospace company has pulsed microwave weapons that can disable vehicles.Jake Barber's public statement; Gerb cites it as a parallel to the Blue Boys helicopters.firsthandJake Barber
Alleged / one person's word (9)
A huge cavern exists under the Pentagon and is run by CIA DS&T.Gerb's own unnamed sources.anonymousGerb's sourcesunnamed sources → person/uap-gerb → told itThe Deep Underground Command Center memos (1963-64)Central Intelligence Agency
Under Gray AAF at Fort Hood lies a UFO research complex with a mountain that opens onto a runway and unmarked helicopters armed to disable UFOs.Anonymous letter to Stringfield, 12 Feb 1974.anonymousanonymous letter writeranonymous writer → Leonard Stringfield → told it
"JK" saw nine frozen bodies under Wright-Patterson in 1966.Stringfield source known by initials only.anonymousJK (anonymous)JK → Leonard Stringfield → told itWright-Patterson AFB & 'Hangar 18'
In the Antelope Valley a man saw the ground open like a silo and a saucer depart, and was then silenced by AFOSI from Edwards.Bill Hamilton's informant.anonymousHamilton informantinformant → Bill Hamilton → told itAir Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI)
A command center lies under Haystack Butte at Edwards, staffed on 14 to 16 day rotations.Hamilton's informant "Gober".anonymousGober (pseudonym)Gober → Bill Hamilton → told it
Bases near Anza, Tejon, Palmdale and March AFB serve Project Red Light.Greer DPI witness "AH".anonymousAH (Greer witness)AH → person/steven-greer → told it
An Army officer rode an underground train from a Texas fort to White Sands in the 2010s, so fast it triggered his fear of flying.Gerb's own source; about half a dozen veterans told Gerb they had been to such facilities.anonymousGerb's sourceArmy officer → person/uap-gerb → told it
RAND's VHST route map matches Hamilton's underground base map.Gerb's comparison.speculationRAND Corporation
Crystal City, home to many contractors and FFRDCs, is where UFO special access programs are run, and it needs an underground facility.Gerb's reasoning.speculation