YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 8 September 2024
9/8/24 Discussing Steven Greer London Live Event
Gerb bought the pay-per-view of Steven Greer's London event of 8 September 2024 and goes through every slide: black sites (Helendale, Dugway, Dulce, Pine Gap), Project Mannequin, the Lawton and Fort Sill story, witness TE, Shannon Lee's Guam net saucer, Herrera's insider and the P3 assets. Almost all of it is Greer's secondhand account of his own witnesses. Gerb adds his own checks: the documented kernel of the Riggs retirement, and three images that are not what Greer says they are, which count against the images only.
On the record
- Gen. Riggs's retirement a grade down is documented.
- Gerb's image checks: one 'black site' photo is from Google Earth, one is Gerb's own map image, and one CE-5 photo is a Chilean Twitter image.
Open questions
- Whether any of Greer's numbered witnesses will speak on the record.
- What the removed Helendale images showed.
Leads to follow
- Shannon Lee, Guam 2008-09: find the removed Greer interview.
- Project Mannequin, RAF Peasemore 1997 (DPI 10412).
- DPI 10329, Nashville.
- Helendale ARV staging (Greer's director of black operations).
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
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c. 1984 onward
Helendale as an ARV staging ground (claimed)About 40 years of black-program use, per Greer's director of black operations.
1997
Project Mannequin, RAF PeasemoreWitness BK (DPI 10412).
2003-04
Gen. John Riggs retired a grade downThe official reason given was improper use of contractors.
2008-09
A saucer in a fisherman's net off GuamShannon Lee, to Greer.
Jun 2023
'Worse than your marine guy thinks it is'Herrera's insider to Greer at the National Press Club event.
The claims, checked
On the record (1)
Gen. John M. Riggs was retired a grade down; a Baltimore Sun article gives the official reason as improper use of contractors.The documented kernel of the Fort Sill story.analysisBaltimore Sun (cited by UAP Gerb)Lt. Gen. John M. Riggs
Witness testimony (6)
Greer did not say the name 'Helendale' in the talk, and the Helendale images have been removed from the DPI archive.Gerb checked the archive.firsthandSteven Greer
A senior Gang-of-Eight staffer asked Greer for the 2001 briefing document for Senate Intelligence and Armed Services staff, and in the 2020s Greer was in SCIFs and brought a 'Trump presidential briefing document'.firsthand
Greer published the coordinates of the Dugway entrance that witness MS described, just north-west of German Village, where Gerb had kept his own description vague.firsthandDugway Proving Ground (Utah)
Shannon Lee, serving in the Navy or Coast Guard with Marines off Guam around 2008-09, helped recover a seamless saucer caught in a Japanese fisherman's net; it was heavy enough nearly to tip the recovery vessel, a sharp tool left no mark, and he signed many NDAs.His Greer interview was taken off Greer's YouTube page.firsthandShannon Lee (to Steven Greer)
Stephen Digna, on a bombing range with two Raytheon employees, saw a large boomerang.Greer calls it a man-made projection; that is his interpretation.firsthandStephen Digna (National Press Club, 2023)Raytheon (RTX)
Greer says he was offered $2 billion to stop, that four people he worked with have been killed, and that 2025-2030 is the window in which 'if we haven't corrected this problem it will be corrected for us'.firsthand
Alleged / one person's word (11)
Helendale (Lockheed, California) is the staging ground for electrogravitic ARVs; the diamonds on the runway are for scalar and EMP systems used to test ARVs and bring down ET craft about once or twice a year; the site has served black programs for about 40 years; the same director was present at ET shoot-downs and recovered craft and bodies.Greer's 'director of black operations' flew him over the site.anonymousunnamed director of black operations → Steven Greer → told itLockheed Martin Skunk WorksSteven Greer
Current tactical-operations leaders (Green Berets, SEALs, JSOC) are seeking briefings from Greer after being asked to bring black projects back under oversight, with 'possible plans to roll on Dugway, Area 51, Edwards and other black sites'; Greer says he runs OPSEC protection for 762 firsthand whistleblowers.Gerb questions both the count and Greer's OPSEC.anonymousunnamed tactical-operations leaders → Steven Greer → told itDugway Proving Ground (Utah)Area 51 and S-4
Greer's DUMB entrance (the 'Northrop anthill') is the Salt Lake cinder cone; a maglev runs from Los Alamos to Kirtland and Dulce; Dulce is all underground, with biotech labs that make 'programmable life forms'.The cinder-cone identification is Gerb's.anonymousunnamed witnesses → Steven Greer → told itLos Alamos National LaboratoryKirtland Air Force Base
In Project Mannequin at RAF Peasemore, UK (1997), witness BK saw and touched greys bred in an NSA underground base, with genetic engineering of 'programmable life forms', including 'reptilian' designs; sketches and allegedly smuggled documents are in the archive.DPI 10412; contact 1068.anonymousBK (DPI 10412) → Steven Greer → told it
Technology from the Lawton, Oklahoma crash was used at Fort Sill, where in 2003 a general showed classified cloaking technology to a BAE Systems employee and was then retired.Witness TB. Kept as Greer's claim; no inference on the general's own record.anonymousTB → Steven Greer → told it
'Fluxliner' was the name of Lockheed's first-generation ARV, and live captured NHI are called 'captives' or 'refugees', not EBEs.anonymousunnamed witnesses → Steven Greer → told itMark McCandlishLockheed Martin Skunk Works
Witness TE served first on an ARV retrieval team, then on an ET retrieval team; at a landed 'sunflower' craft near Nellis the soldiers were stunned, beings with emerald-blue eyes came out, he tried to leave, only his uncle kept him from being killed, and he was then put through a staged abduction and found circuitry inside the 'beings'.DPI 10892; a fuller version than earlier.anonymousTE (DPI 10892) → Steven Greer → told it
At the 2023 National Press Club event Herrera's insider told Greer 'that is worse than your marine guy thinks it is' and said he had been part of that operation; Greer says the craft was Lockheed Skunk Works or EG&G.secondhandHerrera's insider → Steven Greer → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftLockheed Martin Skunk WorksEG&G
Psionic 'P3' assets are used to lure or hijack ET craft and bring them down; most die; those who cannot do the work become forced labour; some are defecting to the Disclosure Project; a base in the Chihuahua Desert houses them.Gerb links it to Sentinels of the Ether.anonymousunnamed witnesses → Steven Greer → told itJake Barber and the golden eggThe 2004 'blue on blue': JSOC against a Lockheed recovery team
DPI witness 10329 describes deep black projects, ARVs used for drug running, and two sites near Nashville where craft land, also used by the CIA and the 160th.The files have since been removed; Gerb has spoken to this person.anonymousDPI 10329 → Steven Greer → told itCentral Intelligence Agency
An elderly doctor named in the archive (a UAP rose from the sea and landed near a Navy ship; he was in touch with an ex-SEAL who tracked UAP leaving an underwater location) told Gerb he was 'not interested' and did not deny it.anonymousunnamed doctor → UAP Gerb → told it
Doesn't hold as stated (2)
The two images Greer showed as photos from his own black-site visits are a Google Earth image and a copy of Gerb's own map image.Proven false for the images; it counts against the images only, not against Greer's witnesses.analysisSteven Greer
One of Greer's two 'CE-5' photos with visible forms is a Chilean sighting posted on Twitter, with no link to Greer that Gerb's Discord member could find.Counts against the image, not against the witnesses.analysisSteven Greer