YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 12 May 2026
UFO File Drop 1, Manhattan Project 2.0, Greer NPC, Highlighting Gatekeepers & QnA - UAP Gerb Live
Streamed a day or two after the first PURSUE tranche of 8 May 2026, when Gerb, Kermit and Rob Jones had just come back from Steven Greer's National Press Club event. Four blocks: the file drop (177 documents, then 176); Rob's FOIA-built thesis of a career 'apex gatekeeper' between UAP and Congress, including Susan Gough's 6 March 2024 email; Kermit's audit of the withdrawn 'USS Eisenhower' memo, whose dates and names do not fit 1985; and the Press Club witnesses, where Anderson repeated the Crane 'Off-World Technologies' sign and Herrera named Epirus.
Overview
- Documents: the file drop, the Gough email, the memo audit.
- Named firsthand: the Press Club witnesses.
- Hypothesis: Rob's gatekeeper and Gerb's 1994 control-group thesis.
On the record
- PURSUE tranche 1 on war.gov/UFO (8 May 2026).
- Gough's 6 March 2024 email (FOIA).
- Burlison's request to MIT Lincoln Laboratory.
Open questions
- Whether the Eisenhower memo was a forgery or an off-books record.
- Why McCasland went missing.
Leads to follow
- FY2024 NDAA section 1687 and the signing statement.
- County borehole records near Dugway and Tejon.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
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1954-64
NSC 5412 Special Group, then the 303 CommitteeGerb: Eisenhower built the largest legacy infrastructure rather than losing control.
1983
Yellow FruitAfter the 1982-83 reforms, Gerb says legacy programs broke into cover offices such as SAF/AA.Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of the Air Force (SAF/AA)
1985 (claimed)
The 'USS Eisenhower' memoThe document pulled from tranche 1; its dock dates, signer and CO do not fit 1985 records.
1990
Sorensen to Bill Scott: Fluxliners went to other planetsThe three Norton discs of 1988 had travelled to other parts of the solar system.
1994
Control leaves the executive branchGerb's thesis: a group of just over two dozen, gated by SAPOC and its Senior Review Group.Deputy Secretary of Defense memo creating the SAPOC (5 January 1994)
Dec 2017
Rob Jones's 'apex gatekeeper' in placeA career SES official between UAP and Congress across three administrations.
6 Mar 2024
Gough: 'we do not want to see sUAS added to AARO's portfolio'FOIA email, the day Gillibrand pressed AARO in a closed briefing.
Feb 2026
McCasland goes missingSoon after the 19 Feb post; Rob's sources say it is treated as a national security matter.
7 May 2026
Burlison asks Lincoln Lab for the 1952 film'Flying Saucer Talk', led by Edward J. Ruppelt.MIT Lincoln Laboratory
8 May 2026
PURSUE tranche 1: 177 files, then 176One document pulled within hours; over 500 million hits in 24 hours.
8 May 2026
Greer's National Press Club eventHerrera, Castle and Anderson each offer to repeat their testimony to Congress; Gerb in the room.Sumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
The claims, checked
On the record (6)
The first tranche put 177 documents on war.gov/UFO on 8 May 2026; one was gone hours later, leaving 176, and the site drew over 500 million hits in 24 hours.firsthandwar.gov/ufo: the files come out
Burlison publicly asked MIT Lincoln Laboratory for a 1952 film, 'Flying Saucer Talk', led by Edward J. Ruppelt, citing its control number.firsthand'Flying saucer talk': Ruppelt's 1952 briefing tape (MIT Lincoln Lab)MIT Lincoln Laboratory
'We do not want to see sUAS added to AARO's portfolio.'Sent the day Senator Gillibrand pressed AARO in a closed briefing about a missing UAS database.firsthandSusan Gough, email of 6 Mar 2024 (DoD FOIA release)AARO
One career SES official has been both Director of Congressional Activities in OUSD(I&S), the office AARO reports through, and chief of the ASD(Legislative Affairs) intelligence team since at least August 2020; his name is in the emails AARO used to say Grusch ignored its invitations.analysisFOIA emails and org charts (Rob Jones)AARO
Terry Phillips, former executive director of AFOSI/PJ and Air Force SAP security director, is now Northrop Grumman VP for security; his successor at PJ is Lee M. Russ.analysiscareer records (cited by UAP Gerb)Terry PhillipsNorthrop Grumman
The Army Corps of Engineers studied deep basing to nearly 10,000 ft and a cavern under China Lake; county well and borehole records are a way to find sites staged to look derelict.analysis
Witness testimony (6)
Elements of the CIA and DIA are trying to block the administration from getting files on crash recoveries and exploitation.To Bret Baier.firsthandDavid Gruschwar.gov/ufo: the files come out
He saw the Eisenhower memo on the Pentagon site before it came down, and gave Gerb the URL.firsthandwar.gov/ufo: the files come out
Each of them said he would repeat his testimony to Congress.firsthandMichael Herrera, Roderick Castle and Randy Anderson (National Press Club, 8 May 2026)Michael HerreraRoderick CastleRandy Anderson
An elevator under NSWC Crane took surprisingly long, and a sign read 'Off-World Technologies'.Repeated at the Press Club, 8 May 2026.firsthandThe 'Off-World Technologies Division' under NSWC Crane (2012-15)
The directed-energy system used to bring craft down is an Epirus pulsed-microwave system.How he knows the maker is not stated. Gerb notes Epirus CEO Andy Lowery studies noetic science (his link).firsthandSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craft
The three Fluxliners at Norton in 1988 had travelled to other parts of the solar system; another recording has him speaking of multiples of light speed.secondhandNorton display staff (unnamed) → Brad Sorensen → Bill Scott (Aviation Week, 1990) → told itBrad SorensenBill Scott's interview notes with Brad Sorensen (3 December 1990)
Alleged / one person's word (6)
DHS was kept out of Kona Blue because the circle did not want 'new blood'.anonymousRob Jones (co-host)unnamed sources → Rob Jones → told itThe Lockheed craft offered to AAWSAPKona Blue (DHS prospective SAP, 2011)
This official has been the working-level gatekeeper between the UAP subject and Congress since at least December 2017, through four levers: one liaison office, the undefined terms in FY2024 NDAA section 1687, a database of every congressional request, and dual authority.Rob's thesis; kept as a claim, not a person record.speculationRob Jones (co-host)AAROThe UAP Disclosure Act
After the 1982-83 reforms and Yellow Fruit, legacy programs broke into cover offices; in 1994 control left the executive branch for a mixed government-industry group of just over two dozen, gated by SAPOC and its Senior Review Group, with FFRDCs such as MITRE and Lincoln Lab inside.speculationSpecial Access Program Oversight Committee (SAPOC) and Senior Review GroupDeputy Secretary of Defense memo creating the SAPOC (5 January 1994)Yellow Fruit (Army special operations cover program)The 'committee of 27'
McCasland was a senior official in Air Force test and evaluation for the legacy programs, AFRL commander and chair of the SAP Oversight Committee; the administration treats his disappearance as a national security matter.anonymousGerb's sources and Rob Jones's sources (unnamed) → UAP Gerb and Rob Jones → told itMaj. Gen. William "Neil" McCasland
Three people unconnected to Lazar told Gerb they had been at S4: a door in the desert near Papoose Lake and hangars in the hillside.Rob: Annie Jacobsen's EG&G 'S-4' badge was a photography employee class. Gerb has seen purported S4 material, not yet vetted.anonymousthree unnamed people → UAP Gerb → told itArea 51 and S-4 go public
An old B-52 video shows a saucer flying alongside, with an occupant visible through a window.anonymousRob Jones (co-host)Coulthart's sources and a former UAP task force member → Rob Jones → told it
Doesn't hold as stated (1)
The withdrawn 'USS Eisenhower' memo does not fit the 1985 record: the carrier was in port at Norfolk from May to July 1985, P. F. Carter Jr. became Director, Joint Staff only on 1 July 1985, and the 1985 commanding officer was Capt. Richard C. Mack.Counts against the memo only. Its classification markings looked right to people Kermit asked; he leans to forgery but keeps an off-books activity open.analysisKermit (co-host) and Douglas Dean Johnsonwar.gov/ufo: the files come out