YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 6 October 2024
Livestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Michael Herrera sits with Gerb in Colorado for a two-and-a-half-hour viewer Q&A. Much of his 2009 Sumatra account is already on record; what is new here is his own later experience (a CE-5 night at Joshua Tree with his insiders, Black Hawks over him after AARO, a former Senate Intelligence staffer who called Kirkpatrick 'shifty' and later relayed Rubio's questions, an unanswered request for satellite imagery) and a great deal from the insiders through him: the 'Black Desert' shoot-down facility near Helendale, P3 screening and a people pipeline, self-funding, and the Mexico event in Sentinels of the Ether. Herrera separates what he saw from what he was told and says disclosure 'is about evidence, not testimony'. Gerb adds Brad Sorensen's warning to him and two witnesses from Greer's DPI archive.
Overview
- Herrera, firsthand: the Joshua Tree CE-5, the Black Hawks, the SSCI staffer and Rubio's Signal questions, the unanswered imagery request, the pistol and NDAs.
- The insiders, via Herrera (anonymous): the Black Desert facility near Helendale, two shoot-down installations, P3 and the people pipeline, cash funding, Sentinels of the Ether.
- Gerb: Sorensen's warning, DPI witnesses 10891 and 10329, Rudy Garcia's Azores Tic Tac, the General Dynamics drawing.
- Kept out: Freemasonry, WEF and SDG questions; the radionic healing device; TR-3B retirement hearsay (Herrera flags it himself).
On the record
- Herrera's April 2023 AARO session, acknowledged in AARO's 2024 historical report.
- Greer's DPI archive entries for witnesses 10891 and 10329, as Gerb describes them.
Open questions
- Who the former SSCI staffer is, and whether Rubio's office kept the Signal questions.
- Where the second shoot-down installation is.
- Whether the satellite imagery of 9-10 October 2009 exists.
Leads to follow
- FOIA to the Department of the Interior, BIA, BLM and the Forest Service on cleared areas and missing persons (the insiders' suggestion).
- Rudy Garcia's 1991 Azores account and the transport wing.
- The October 2023 General Dynamics octagonal ARV drawing.
- Temporary flight restrictions near Helendale.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
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Oct 2009
Sumatra: a privatized team, not JSOCThe insiders say the operators Herrera met were contractors drawn from JSOC and SOCOM, answering to no commanding officer.Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC)
2004
Sentinels of the Ether: the Mexico event is 'real'A JSOC team murdered, a holographic mountain, an F-18 and a drone hit by EMP; three traceable copies of the book.Coyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crash
Early 2000s
DPI witness 10891: a Nellis retrieval teamTexts with Greer say he was threatened with planted charges if he talked.
1991
A Tic Tac loaded at a USAF base in the AzoresGreer witness Rudy Garcia's account and drawings; Gerb is tracing the transport wing.
Apr 2023
Hart SCIF, then AARO: 'Kirkpatrick is shifty'A former SSCI staffer took his account, sat in on the AARO session and warned him about Kirkpatrick.
2023
Black Hawks over Herrera after AARONo transponder, no radio; reported to AARO, Senate Intel and two DHS agents.
2023
Flown to the Black Desert facility, armed to build trustRoute hidden, no phone; handed a pistol with a full magazine; several NDAs.
2024
Joshua Tree CE-5: 93 anomaliesChecked against Flightradar and a satellite tracker; a gold disc three times; blacked-out helicopters both nights.
2024
Sorensen: 'the same way as McCandlish'A warning to Gerb to stop investigating the Fluxliners; Gerb has screenshots.Mark McCandlish
2024
Shoot-downs: NHI only two to three times a yearMost targets are their own reverse-engineered craft.
Oct 2024
Satellite imagery request still unansweredAARO and the Pentagon never answered his request for 9-10 October 2009.AARO
The claims, checked
Witness testimony (9)
At a CE-5 night at Joshua Tree with his insiders present, about 1 a.m., the group counted 93 anomalies after checking each against Flightradar and a satellite tracker (ISS, Starlink trains); objects popped in and out, strobes appeared 'feet in front of us', and a gold disc was seen three times, once coming in like a shooting star and then curving up.He says the CE-5 work is "100% legitimate" and that he has photos; none were shown on the stream.firsthandLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Both nights two blacked-out helicopters with no transponder flew straight at the group, banked and left, while the CH-53s and Predator drones from Twentynine Palms showed up on the apps.firsthandLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
After his AARO session Black Hawks began flying over him, including in restricted airspace under an airport zone, with no transponder and no radio; he sent photos and videos to AARO, the Senate Intelligence Committee and two DHS agents who investigate human trafficking and are pilots.His family has 'gotten messed with' too.firsthandAAROLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Before going to the Pentagon he gave his full account in a SCIF in the Hart Senate Office Building to a former Senate Intelligence Committee staffer, who then sat in on his AARO session and told him beforehand that Kirkpatrick was 'shifty'.The staffer is unnamed; no person record.firsthandSean KirkpatrickAAROLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Sen. Marco Rubio later sent him specific questions about his AARO testimony through that staffer, over Signal.firsthandMarco RubioLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
The staffer heard people read into the subject say 'those operations, see what Mr Herrera talked about, that's how they happen'.secondhandunnamed read-in officials → former SSCI staffer (unnamed) → Michael Herrera → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
He asked AARO and the Pentagon for satellite imagery of 9-10 October 2009 and they never answered; an intelligence-committee contact tried and could not get it either.AARO had told him in April 2023 that it had imagery of the day.firsthandAAROSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
He was flown to the insiders' facility unable to see the route until certain points, wearing a red Under Armour shirt and jeans with no phone, and was handed a pistol with a full magazine to build trust; he signed several NDAs with them.The caption reads 'block'; the write-up gives Glock.firsthandLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Brad Sorensen told Gerb that if he keeps investigating the Fluxliners he will 'go the same way as Mark McCandlish'; Gerb has screenshots.Screenshots not shown on the stream.firsthandBrad SorensenMark McCandlishLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Alleged / one person's word (11)
Their range tracks the same objects seen at Joshua Tree when it switches on a certain system; the objects come in to observe, which is partly how they get shot down.Said by the insiders at the CE-5; Herrera calls the mechanism a hypothesis.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itThe White Sands lure and the shoot-down questionLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
The team at Sumatra was a privatized group drawn from JSOC and SOCOM, not a JSOC division; as contractors they answer to no commanding officer.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftJoint Special Operations Command (JSOC)Livestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
A craft on the insiders' systems looks identical to Herrera's top-view sketches but is about 30-50 ft across, not about 300 ft.A different, smaller craft the insiders hold, not a correction of his 300 ft estimate.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
The facility he was flown to is in the 'Black Desert' near Helendale, California: an engine and propulsion test-stand site used as cover, mostly underground, and the largest of two installations that do shoot-downs.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itSumatra, 2009: Michael Herrera's octagonal craftLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
NHI craft 'materialize' in 3D over the range and are brought down only two to three times a year; most shoot-downs are of their own reverse-engineered craft, tested to be EMP-, missile- and bullet-proof, and the insiders 'have a hard time distinguishing between NHI and their own stuff'.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itThe White Sands lure and the shoot-down questionLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
P3 means 'psionic potential predisposition', the screening program; those who pass go to operations and the rest do maintenance and admin; people are taken from third-world countries, Mexico and via the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and a breeding program now produces staff who never go topside.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itMichael HerreraLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
The Department of the Interior (Forest Service, BIA, BLM) helps clear areas where people go missing into these programs, and 'black' controls it heavily; the insiders suggest FOIA there.A lead, not a finding.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
The organization funds itself in cash from narcotics, weapons and people, millions a year in patent income, and money siphoned from acknowledged programs such as the F-35.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
The Mexico event in Sentinels of the Ether is '100% real'; the book also carries planted errors to test DOPSR, and three copies went out (to Herrera, to Greer and one more) with names and wording changed to trace leaks.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itThe 2004 'blue on blue': JSOC against a Lockheed recovery teamCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashSteven GreerLivestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Sentinels synopsis: helicopters carried refugees in containers; a JSOC team was intercepted and murdered by the black operators; the containers went to a Chihuahuan Desert black site hidden by a holographic mountain; of two F-18s scrambled, one was hit by EMP and its pilot ejected supersonic; the helicopters flew straight through the 'mountain' and a drone was also hit by EMP.The insiders will not say whether they were there.anonymousHerrera's insiders (unnamed former tier-one operators) → Michael Herrera → told itThe 2004 'blue on blue': JSOC against a Lockheed recovery teamCoyame, Chihuahua, 1974: the Deneb report crashJoint Special Operations Command (JSOC)Livestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24
Jonathan Weygandt was roughed up by the same organization that Herrera met at Sumatra and that his insiders belong to; it has good and bad factions.secondhandHerrera's insiders → Michael Herrera → told itJonathan WeygandtThe crashed egg in Peru (Weygandt, 1997)Livestream and Q&A with Michael Herrera 10/6/24