YouTube video · UAP Gerb · 11 October 2026
David Grusch on JRE, Herrington Denial, RFK Shoot Down Briefing & QnA - UAP Gerb Live
The hosts go through Grusch's second Joe Rogan interview point by point, then John Herrington's denial of Brent Friedman's account, RFK Jr.'s statement with Rep. Luna that he was briefed on UAP shoot-down and recovery operations, and a Q&A. Most items are Grusch's own words; Gerb adds his sourcing on MITRE (Project Meridian, a hidden Special Security Office) and warns of a coordinated effort to pin the legacy program on contractors alone.
Overview
- Named: Grusch, Herrington, Friedman, RFK Jr.
- Anonymous: MITRE's hidden office; Northrop as fall guy.
- Gerb's warning: a contractor-only story leaves out FFRDCs and agencies.
On the record
- Grusch's Rogan interview; Herrington's denial on American Alchemy; RFK Jr.'s statement.
- PURSUE Release 06 (the Ruppelt film).
Open questions
- Who briefed RFK Jr., if not SkyWatcher.
- Whether a Project Meridian memo names MITRE.
Leads to follow
- ATOM 222/333 flash-code records at the National Archives.
- The Idaho Falls ANP hangar.
- Marley Woods in the OAP slides.
Timeline
On the recordWitness testimonyAlleged / one person's word
People across the timeline · click a name or a dot
Click a person to follow their thread.
1952
Ruppelt's 'Flying Saucer Talk'Released in PURSUE 06; the UFO-nuclear link predates the EMP-test story.
1971
SALT-era accident agreement: 'the top layer of the onion'Grusch's phrase for the 1971 and 1977 notification agreements.
Oct 2026
2026
MITRE picked to lead Project MeridianWith Gingrich, Palmer Luckey and Musk, per reporting; check the memo.
The claims, checked
Witness testimony (14)
He is confident, not promising, of an executive-level disclosure, and expects it to include the 10-minute video he saw from a source inside the programs; this is his last interview but one until then, and he has left Burlison's office.firsthandGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
The video, about 10 minutes and close-up, shows a contemporary crash site of a boomerang craft with three or four 'beautiful' humanoid beings in tight suits with whitish-blue skin; he sat on it for years until he confirmed the event.firsthandGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
Foreign intelligence reports on US crash-retrieval activity were analysed by NASIC; the program uses an off-books part of the Foreign Materiel Program, and more nations than the US, Russia and China have craft.Also in his 9 June Capitol statement.firsthandNational Air and Space Intelligence CenterGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
The SALT-era notification agreements of 1971 and 1977 are 'the top layer of the onion', and a gentleman's agreement covers legacy programs.Gerb searched the National Archives for ATOM 222/333 flash-code records and found pages removed as classified.secondhandunnamed sources → David Grusch → told itUS-Soviet Accident Measures Agreement, 1971 (Article 3: unidentified objects)Grusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
He was groomed for a legacy role through a year-long vetting without knowing it; his anomalous-signal deconfliction work was 'looking for UAP without knowing it', and the program uses conventional national-security collection rather than its own.firsthandGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
A Nixon-era disclosure plan produced a filmed briefing, with a chalkboard and craft, meant for release.secondhandunnamed sources → David Grusch → told itGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
An underwater facility the size of several city blocks manufactures devices.secondhandunnamed sources → David Grusch → told itGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
Most successful reverse engineering was 'inspiration', not copying, with a possible 'Trojan horse' dependence on limited exotic materials.secondhandunnamed sources → David Grusch → told itGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
Specific officers, not the whole government, finance covert programs through human trafficking for profit.He cites the David Rush gold-bar case (a fake continuity-of-government SAP) as a pattern.secondhandunnamed sources → David Grusch → told itGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
To The Stars and the Clinton effort were a limited-disclosure hangout with top cover from James Clapper, 'prepping the battle space'.secondhandunnamed sources → David Grusch → told itJames ClapperTo The Stars AcademyGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
He flatly denies Brent Friedman's account of disturbing NHI briefings, calls Grusch a 'Fauci-type' personality, says he found only the F-117 over the Nevada site in DOE's budget, and mentions a nuclear aircraft in a hangar at Idaho Falls.A denial by the person concerned is one data point, not a documentary contradiction. The hosts read the aircraft as the old ANP airframe.firsthandJohn Herrington denies Brent Friedman's 1981 accountSecretary of Energy John Herrington on UFOs, plus Brent Friedman's replyBrent Friedman
He is not backing down, and has posted photos of his mother with Herrington and the two families together.firsthandJohn S. Herrington
At the start of the Trump administration he was briefed on UAP shoot-down and recovery operations by Green Berets, former SEALs and a NASA scientist: 'it was crazy to me'.With Rep. Luna.secondhandbriefers (unnamed) → Robert F. Kennedy Jr. → told itKennedy, Bigelow and the February 2026 directiveAnna Paulina Luna
The War Department picked MITRE to lead Project Meridian, with Newt Gingrich, Palmer Luckey and Elon Musk.Check the memo.secondhandpress reports (not yet checked) → UAP Gerb → told itThe MITRE Corporation
Alleged / one person's word (6)
The video was filmed by a site-securing direct-action team, not perimeter security.speculationGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
A source was shown 1950s-60s retrieval films on being read in.anonymousunnamed source → UAP Gerb → told itGrusch on Rogan: retrievals, beings and the threats
The group that briefed RFK Jr. was not SkyWatcher, which has no SEALs, but a different group, possibly legacy-linked.Rob has a name he will not give.anonymousRob Jones (co-host)unnamed source → Rob Jones → told itSkyWatcherKennedy, Bigelow and the February 2026 directive
MITRE's legacy work sits in a hidden Special Security Office at its headquarters, not in its FFRDCs, with program security officers at Pax River, McLean and East Coast offices; mature MITRE legacy technology has been deployed in combat theatres.anonymousunnamed sources → UAP Gerb → told itThe MITRE CorporationNaval Air Station Patuxent River (Pax River)
A coordinated effort (Eric Davis, Jay Stratton's Out of the Shadows, The Age of Disclosure) pins the legacy program on contractors and Ryder's materials program, leaving out FFRDCs, national labs, ONI, NGA, the Army and the NSC.speculationJay StrattonEric W. DavisThe Age of Disclosure
Northrop Grumman may be set up to 'take the fall'.Boeing won both the F-47 and F/A-XX.anonymousRob Jones (co-host)unnamed source → Rob Jones → told itNorthrop Grumman