YouTube video · UAP Gerb · c. autumn 2025
Lockheed Martin - UFO Reverse Engineering, Material Exploitation, & Legacy Programs
UAP Gerb lays out the public record on Lockheed Martin, from Skunk Works and Tonopah to GAO audits of its special-access document control, and sets it beside Grusch's and Harry Reid's statements that Lockheed has held non-human material for decades. The centrepiece is the cleared document in the November 2024 hearing record describing Lockheed Space VP Jim Ryder's plan to hand crash-retrieval material to a government programme, a plan the CIA blocked. Gerb adds what his own sources say about Tonopah, Oak Ridge and the 1953 Kingman craft, and marks those parts as unverified.
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1943
Skunk Works founded at BurbankNow mainly at Air Force Plant 42, Palmdale.Air Force Plant 42 (Palmdale)
1953
Kingman craftSome of Gerb's sources say Lockheed's divestment material was the 1953 Kingman craft.
1956
'Electrogravitics Systems' reportAviation Studies report says Martin, Lockheed and others were working on gravity control.
1986
GAO audit of Lockheed Burbank SAP documents1,460 discrepancies among about 40,000 secret items; 11 unresolved.
1993
Martin Marietta takes over SandiaLockheed Martin's Sandia Corporation ran the lab until 2017.Lockheed Martin Skunk Works
5 January 1994
SAP oversight restructuredDepSecDef memo creates the SAPOC and Senior Review Group.Special Access Program Oversight Committee (SAPOC) and Senior Review Group
30 July 2009
BAASS plans a vault for recovered hardwareTen-month report plans an underground vault for hardware and biological samples from the corporate world.Bigelow Aerospace / BAASSThe Lockheed craft offered to AAWSAP
2011
Ryder's divestment plan blockedCleared document says Lockheed's Jim Ryder proposed handing over 1950s crash material; Glenn Gaffney killed it.The Lockheed craft offered to AAWSAP
November 2024
Burchett enters the packet into the hearing recordThe DOPSR-cleared document naming Ryder goes into the House hearing record.
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On the record (9)
A DOPSR-cleared document in the November 2024 hearing record says Lockheed Space VP Jim Ryder proposed divesting 1950s crash-retrieval material to a government programme.Cleared 6 September 2023 and entered by Rep. Burchett; author unknown.firsthandBurchett hearing packetJim RyderKona Blue (DHS prospective SAP, 2011)'Exposing the Truth' hearing
The same document says CIA science and technology deputy director Glenn Gaffney killed the transfer, and that DHS was approached to host it.Hearing-record packet; Gaffney has denied involvement to reporters.firsthandBurchett hearing packetGlenn GaffneyKona Blue (DHS prospective SAP, 2011)
BAASS's 2009 report planned an underground vault to receive recovered hardware and biological samples from the corporate world or private individuals.BAASS ten-month report, 30 July 2009, under DIA contract HHM402-08-C-0072.analysisAAWSAP and AATIP: the secret Pentagon studyBigelow Aerospace / BAASSThe Lockheed craft offered to AAWSAP
GAO found 1,460 discrepancies in Lockheed Burbank's special-access document control in 1986, and special-access programmes had been excluded from routine inspection since 1965.GAO August 1986 report and July 1986 letter.analysisLockheed Martin Skunk Works
Tonopah Test Range was set up by Sandia for the AEC in 1957, appears as 'Area 52' on AEC and DOE maps, and has a mapped 'Site 4'.AEC and DOE maps and range history.analysisSandia National Laboratories
Lockheed Martin's Sandia Corporation ran Sandia National Laboratories from 1993 to 2017.Sandia operating history.analysisSandia National LaboratoriesLockheed Martin Skunk Works
Mary Sturtevant moved from CIA, Senate intelligence committee and NRO posts to become a Lockheed Martin vice president from 2006.Public bios, including the NRO's 'Leaders of the NRO'.analysisMary SturtevantNational Reconnaissance Office (NRO)
Donald Kerr ran Los Alamos, EG&G, CIA science and technology and the NRO, and sat on the SAIC and MITRE boards.Public CV.analysisDonald KerrEG&GSAICThe MITRE Corporation
Ryder spoke publicly on fairies, devas and unidentified aerial phenomena, and served on a review team with Davis and Puthoff.Lucis Trust talks of 2015 to 2018.analysisJim RyderEric W. DavisHal Puthoff
Witness testimony (7)
Lockheed wanted to divest material at a specific facility whose address he gave the Inspector General, and the CIA said no.Grusch's own claim on Rogan; details only in closed session.firsthandLockheed Martin Skunk WorksCentral Intelligence AgencyJim Ryder
Harry Reid said Lockheed had UFO material for decades and he was denied access to it.Reid to the New Yorker (2021), repeated by Grusch.secondhandunnamed sources → Harry Reid → told itHarry ReidLockheed Martin Skunk Works
The Tic Tac was Skunk Works technology, and Lockheed's Helendale radar range is where man-made antigravity craft are tested against directed-energy weapons.Greer's claim, given without sources.secondhandunnamed sources → Steven Greer → told itThe Nimitz 'Tic Tac'Lockheed Martin Skunk Works
Ross Coulthart says he now knows categorically that the Tic Tac is Lockheed Martin technology.Coulthart on Need to Know; his sources are unnamed.secondhandunnamed sources → Ross Coulthart → told itThe Nimitz 'Tic Tac'Lockheed Martin Skunk Works
Ben Rich said Lockheed had things in the desert fifty years beyond what the public knew.Rich's remarks reported by those who heard him (1993 UCLA talk; Jim Goodall).secondhandBen Rich → Jim Goodall and audience members → told itBen RichLockheed Martin Skunk Works
Ed, an Edwards electronic-warfare director, says Lockheed and Boeing were the two key contractors on a reproduction-vehicle programme between Edwards, Area 51 and S4.Ed's account as Gerb relays it.secondhandEd (Edwards 412th Test Wing) → Steven Greer → UAP Gerb → told itArea 51 and S-4
A Comptroller General audit found a crashed-UFO programme, and a powerful person in DoD quenched it.Vallée's 2004 journal entry, from what he was told.secondhandunnamed informant → Jacques Vallée → told it
Alleged / one person's word (5)
Two recovered non-human saucers are kept in an underground installation below Oak Ridge.Gerb's unnamed sources; Gerb says he cannot back it up.anonymousunnamed insiders → UAP Gerb → told it
Tonopah Test Range stores 'the interesting stuff' and its Site 4 is involved in UFO operations.Gerb's private sources.anonymousunnamed insiders → UAP Gerb → told itSandia National Laboratories
Lockheed's divestment material was the 1953 Kingman craft.Some of Gerb's sources; Gerb holds it with moderate to high conviction.anonymousunnamed insiders → UAP Gerb → told itLockheed Martin Skunk WorksKona Blue (DHS prospective SAP, 2011)
Tonopah Test Range hosts crash-retrieval and material-exploitation work.Gerb says he publicly accuses Tonopah; no record yet.speculationSandia National Laboratories
Eric Davis is protecting the programme when he says no reproduction vehicles exist.Gerb's own reasoning; not shown by a record.speculationEric W. Davis